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so uhh am i the only one who thinks ip addr is much better than ifconfig and ip route is much better than route

- the output that also works as command arguments and mostly makes sense alone
- you can do and undo just by replacing add with del
- arguments mostly aren't positional

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@CobaltVelvet ifconfig shows everything in a single run, though

@val idk i mean if i want stats i use ip -s addr, if i want addresses i use ip addr, if i want routes i use ip route

i can't think of really needing the three quickly at the same time

@CobaltVelvet ipv4 address, ipv6 address, eth adress

@CobaltVelvet I don't care one way or the other

one is a standard tool for the last 40 years on basically every single unix, and the other is linux only unportable garbage

@CobaltVelvet I hate it (for personal reasons), but I have to agree: it's quite good.

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Oh I had no idea about the output matching the input, that's interesting..

@clacke @CobaltVelvet That's exactly what happened to me, and when I had to do ifconfig I wasn't really in the mood to grep the online documentation of ip.

I do think ip is much better, of course.

@CobaltVelvet I prefer iproute2.
It's syntax is very well thought and i like it's manual too.

@CobaltVelvet Nope, you're not the only one. I'm a fan of it as well.

@CobaltVelvet ip addr has been growing on me more and more since I started binding multiple ip address to an interface.

@CobaltVelvet I also dig it. I haven't typed "ifconfig" in years.