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“There are many Hong Kongers and other smart people writing online who can explain the political context of the protests, the likelihood of intervention, and what this means in a deeper way. I am just a visitor who perhaps thinks too much about fish cakes when being tear gassed.”

idlewords.com/2019/08/a_walk_i

Of course Maciej Cegłowski went to protests and wrote a brilliant piece, with references to how the ’80s Soviet–American culture shock is as great as the 2010s America–HK one.

Protip: is a name and I believe is pronounced “maa-chey Tchaikovsky”.

Another. On recent macOS/iOS, you can get international characters like the ł in Cegłowski and Janelle Monáe by holding down the simpler key and seeing all the options.

(There are some differences. iOS will let me select degree symbol when I hold down 0 but macOS won't.)

(Alas, no Ðð or Þþ this way, need Icelandic keyboard.)

(No Greek either…)

(So that means when I write 'whaaaaa', I'm actually tapping the key repeatedly, not just holding it down—please appreciate the impact of that 'aaaa'.)

Still smarting from the racist undertone to this pro- anti- anti-democracy and anti-Middle East verse:

‘“Hey democracy! Once I heard you be found in the Middle East, people were throwing bombs across the city streets,” runs the English-language rap by nationalistic Chinese group CD Rev. “If that’s what you want sorry I can’t agree, get those foreign agents outta town then we can talk about it.”’

hongkongfp.com/2019/08/19/chin

Because the Middle East is where they throw bombs right? 🖕

You know when you read about momentous events in history. D-Day—but also the Warsaw Uprising: events that the history books ex-post frame as “obviously” earth shattering, but also the ones books only casually mention because nothing really major resulted.

Watching the situation these weeks has been a smorgasbord of nerve-racking breath-holding waiting to see whether this goes down as 1991-grade Soviet collapse event, or another of the many non-cigar close calls.

That precipice. 🤤!

Yes: since I learned the dynasty song in the HarvardX history course,

Shang Zhou Qin Han…

and studied the longevity and fall of other single-party states (Nazi, Soviet, Cambodia, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, etc.), my secret delight has been wondering what comes after the last verse of the song,

Yuan Ming Qing Republic,
Mao Zedong

When will Mao’s CCP go the way of the Shang and the Soviets, and what will come after? I’m sure it’ll be just as monumental a black swan 🦢!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJis9TSw

's next bulletin from is riveting:

idlewords.com/2019/08/a_week_w

" wants to eat Hong Kong. That is what these protests are about."

"The [protest] groups disagree on tactics, but are each committed to the principle that they will not allow themselves to be divided. There is immense tolerance of tactical differences that would fracture other movements." 😮

When this son of Soviet Poland says "that's when I understood the Hong Kongers may actually win", I'm like 😮😮😮?!!?

‘“The raptors followed us onto the other train. People were terrified. I saw a mother holding her two little daughters. They were all crying. I saw two young women who probably just came back from shopping or a night out because both were dressed in nice clothes. They were clinging to each other, huddled in a corner, crying. There were old people holding onto their shopping bags, shaking with fear.”’
latimes.com/world-nation/story

police brutality via Pinboard aka Maciej Cegłowski’s Twitter.

‘Ng saw police hit another young man in a white shirt on the head. Blood was pouring down his neck. “He just fell, and I didn’t see him move again.” They toppled another young man wearing black, beating him with batons and kicking him where he lay.’

In . Ibid. latimes.com/world-nation/story

@kensanata @22 Fantastic writing. And for someone who has lived here on and off for a decade, it's great to recapture that fascination for the wonders of our city that he conveys so well.

The MTR *is* a fiefdom unto itself and it was shocking to see the pictures of police firing teargas inside.

@notclacke @kensanata What are our favorite Maciej moments?

Mine might be where he's like "we found the waiting room for the Houston passengers. And then the waiting room took off." idlewords.com/talks/web_design

His nonfiction is more scintillating than the vast majority of fiction I've read. Perhaps the Maciej piece I most often think about is the one on scuvy vs lemon juice vs lime juice: idlewords.com/2010/03/scott_an

@22

yes, the 747 thing is a favorite

I was standing in front of a bewildering array of peanut butter options this week and had thoughts along his comments here about first visiting Safeway

There's also the burrito tunnel.

And I just introduced his term "ambient privacy" to someone today.

@notclacke @kensanata

@22 @kensanata I've never heard of him before, so the only article I know that I've read must by definition be my favorite. :-)

@clacke

@notclacke @kensanata I would love to visit HK. When CCP falls…!

@22 @kensanata That'll be a long wait. I assure you it's worth a visit as it is right now, even moreso if things could just regress to the way they were a decade or just a year ago.

@clacke
@notclacke @22 @kensanata Further encroachment on the MTR fiefdom.

Chinese state media has been accusing them of just doing their job of transporting people, rather than policing. Apparently the complaints have had an effect. 🙁
@22 @kensanata And now they implemented it.

Green line east of Choi Hung closed down, disconnecting Kwun Tong from the network in anticipation of approved protests.

This is not a pragmatic and practical measure or safety concerns, this is politics. This is a disgrace.

> “Due to the public event in Kwun Tong areas, as a prudent measure… Kwun Tong Line train service between Choi Hung and Tiu Keng Leng stations will be suspended temporarily,” the announcement read.

www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/24/…
After last weekend's interruption, we are now back to our regular scheduled Saturday teargas.

www.reuters.com/article/us-hon…
I thought things were calming down to a simmer, but this looks like the worst day since June in terms of violence.

Tear gas in Kwun Tong, Kowloon Bay and Wong Tai Sin, molotovs in Telford Plaza in Kowloon Bay, Telford Plaza restaurants had to evacuate due to the wind bringing tear gas inside.

www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/po…
I suppose Molotovs a day after the 80th anniversary of Molotov-Ribbentrop is somehow appropriate.
"Train service on the Kwun Tong Line has resumed. Some exits/entrances of selected stations are still closed due to damages. Please follow the directions of MTR's staff."

@22 that really was an amazing read, thank you for sharing!

@22 sadly, I have practically no hope – my brain is full of Tiananmen imagery and stories of the cultural “revolution” and many other sad aspects of Chinese history. Where do you get your hopes from? Simply the idea that a black swan event is eventually going to happen so every uprising is a possibility?

@kensanata yes, that :) but also how sudden and mostly unforeseen the Soviet collapse was. Classic black swan.

@kensanata recall also the important meta-historical awareness the Chinese themselves have, that every past dynasty is said to have lost the Mandate of Heaven (auto-capitalized on iOS!) through avarice and oppression at the top of the nation’s leadership, so all Chinese historically knew to ask themselves where they were in that cycle. Today, I’m not sure how common it is, but certainly all the courses I’ve taken on Chinese history stress the Mandate of Heaven concept.

@kensanata I have often seen pro-Chinese rhetoric citing how much time and effort the CCP takes in finding and addressing sources of public dissatisfaction (“down to the trash collection schedule!”) in an effort to help the people, and to avoid the appearance of indifference. I’d always parsed that rhetoric as trying to affirm that the party does still deserve the Mandate of Heaven.

If history repeated we could see Xinjiang, Tibet, & Hong Kong becoming their own countries independent of China…

@kensanata of course China is in a very different position today than the Soviet Union was. But!, the Soviet Union appeared extremely powerful right up to when it collapsed, and before the narrative effortlessly switched to how weak and crumbling the Soviet system was after all.

The deliciousness of watching the Hong Kong story unfold comes from wondering how what is totally obvious now will transform into what’s totally obvious (and totally different!) afterwards.

@22 @kensanata That might suggest what's needed. Ireland won independence from Britain not because the British *couldn't* crush another Irish insurrection, but because they had bigger problems elsewhere.
China is facing a trade war, attempting a major economic shift to slower growth, and has an insurrection in Hong Kong. But in terms of resource allocation the insurrection only calls for military suppression. Where's the dilution of military attention? Maybe Tibet and others could join in?

@kensanata see ted.com/talks/eric_x_li_a_tale for example (this isn’t the one I remember taking about trash collection—which incidentally ISIS was also praised for in some of the territories it conquered, cf., Caliphate podcast by Rukmini Callimachi/NYT—but in the same vein)

@22 Yeah, the Mandate of Heaven featured a lot in the things I heard. I took it as a shorthand for people believing that a new world order is possible. As soon as they understand the possibility, everything changes. Then they’re just waiting for the revolution. As long as everything seems without alternative, nobody budges.

@22 @kensanata I was thinking about this just the other day and how President Xi thinks the Mandate is with him, but suddenly one day he might discover that the Mandate of Heaven in the People's Republic is suddenly with the People.

@a_breakin_glass want to emphasize I’m not comparing anything to anything here!, just giving examples of diverse single-party states I’ve studied in school and on my own, and that inform me of some aspects of their collapse. Few parallels can be drawn! History is a good teacher—but it can only tell you what won’t happen, not what will.

@22 A charitable interpretation, if such is warranted, might be that the US brought democracy to Iraq at gunpoint, the result was civil war, Iraq is but the latest example of democracy at gunpoint, and Iraq is in the Middle East.

@notclacke I also wondered if they were making fun of the Arab Spring. Very unwholesome, making fun of people’s attempts at a better life.

@22 It's the only way, to try to disceredit what Hong Kong people want. Call it pie in the sky, doomed to fail, disruptive to stability etc.

Otherwise they would have to explain why it would work in Hong Kong and not in Lhasa, Urumqi, Hohhot and other places.

@clacke
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