danielle~! ✅ @00dani@octodon.social

@nightpool !!!! the pwa provides push notifications???? gasp...... that's brilliant

@sky hm. there goes that idea. i definitely AM a technical user so i checked mastalab's source code for any use of google cloud messaging (or its replacement, firebase cloud messaging) and nada :/

hmmmmmm

@sky hmm. did you install mastalab from f-droid or from google play? because it just occurred to me that the f-droid version might not support push notifications, since a lot of android apps use google cloud messaging for that :o

@sky hmm, my mastalab notifications always seem to arrive in delayed batches, as though it's just pulling them every few minutes :/ maybe it's my instance at fault or something, idk

@porsupah and actually, you don't need the notifications' content to go thru their servers either! it'll work just as well if you send an empty "ping" as a push notification and have the app pull down the actual content locally, which is apparently what amaroq does

amaroq is ios-exclusive sadly tho

@porsupah i don't think so? it MIGHT be necessary for the actual notifications to go thru tootdon servers to be delivered (e.g., instance -> webhook -> tootdon -> your phone) but that should be entirely achievable without giving them your whole access token :/

@porsupah gasp!! that's what i get for steadfastly ignoring all mastodon apps that aren't open source i guess

hm. it sounds like they're achieving those push notifications in a rather unscrupulous way, idk if i'm comfortable with that https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=club.tootdon.app&reviewId=gp%3AAOqpTOECIq7GPE1vLgeG5UtpxeWIZQ49hJvmKp6WYI7EIdeq4P5Y2Q2O90Z8MCthUaoG4GYRLHxZlSImMo2Uwkg

so do any mastodon mobile apps do push notifications yet?

i'm using mastalab rn and i'm pretty sure it only does pull notifications? i don't see any of the other apps mentioning that they do push and i reckon that's something they'd be bragging about if they had it? hmm

@softgoat tls means "they're lovely + soft"

@HTHR
he was a boy
she was a girl
or so we thought

@soft_chomps what about godot? from what i've seen it looks like it's real good for 2d

@RAOF i set it up today, actually! dovecot >=2.3 can act as a submission /relay/, it passes the messages on to your actual mta for delivery but handles auth and enables more advanced smtp features?

most importantly is burl, which enables you to upload sent messages once rather than both to smtp (for actual sending) and to imap (for saving in your sent folder) - since dovecot effectively provides both smtp and imap, burl Just Works™ :3

@RAOF ah. darn. and i'm guessing it doesn't do cool things like use dovecot as the submission service either, since the distribution-provided dovecot doesn't know how to do that yet :/

@RAOF wait wait wait, ubuntu provides a single package that sets up that whole stack?

oh my god i installed everything individually while fiddling with it for DAYS

amazing

@RAOF oh wow, email in a container sounds good :3 it'd definitely be easier to split off to a separate server :o

also what's your stack? maybe i can improve mine a li'l ;)

hm. i've set up postfix, amavis with clamav + spamassassin, dovecot, and solr all on the same system i'm using to host 00dani.me and various other projects

it's kinda tight on memory at this point?

i'm wondering whether it's worth spinning off a separate mail server maybe? i'd probably have to configure the services all over again, this stuff is pretty ingrained in the system it's on, but maybe it'd be worth it? idk

maybe i need to shave fewer yaks and stop self-hosting everything :/